Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cadovax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!cadovax!keithd From: keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Simple Forms Message-ID: <641@cadovax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-May-85 22:08:15 EDT Article-I.D.: cadovax.641 Posted: Thu May 30 22:08:15 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Jun-85 00:07:20 EDT References: <1138@uwmacc.UUCP> Organization: Contel Cado, Torrance, CA Lines: 27 >>> They show design [a]. There are no examples of >>> half-developed feathers, eyes [b], skin, tubes (arteries, >>> veins, intestines, etc.), or any of thousands of other >>> vital organs. > >> [Keith Doyle] >> Not true. There are ranges of eyes and ears from the very simple to the >> complex. > >There are ranges of houses from the very simple to the complex. But >there is no phylogeny. Do you have one for eyes and ears? > >It's not hard to postulate *anything*. The difficulty lies in showing >that the postulates are reasonable. I simply cannot understand how you >expect anyone who is not already convinced by this line of reasoning to >be persuaded by such vague and speculative statements. > >This argument boils down to: they "could" evolve, and this is >evidence for evolution. It is not possible that you expect the >creationist to take this seriously. [DuBois] I'm not saying that the complexity of eyes etc. is particularly good evidence for evolution, just that it is not particularly good evidence of 'design'. Keith Doyle # {ucbvax,ihnp4,decvax}!trwrb!cadovax!keithd