Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site loral.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdcc6!loral!simard From: simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) Newsgroups: net.nlang.india,net.religion,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Inquiry on Reincarnation Message-ID: <852@loral.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 22:22:15 EDT Article-I.D.: loral.852 Posted: Tue May 28 22:22:15 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 12:10:10 EDT References: <470@nmtvax.UUCP> <1289@amdcad.UUCP> <1899@ut-sally.UUCP> <286@sbcs.UUCP> Reply-To: simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) Distribution: net Organization: Loral Instrumentation, San Diego, CA Lines: 26 Xref: linus net.nlang.india:426 net.religion:6598 net.philosophy:1618 >>> He was telling me his experiences in astral projection. For those who >>> don't know: astral projection is the science of projecting oneself >>> mentally out of your body ... I do not know how much >>> credibility you give this, ( etc. etc.) >> >> None at all. >> It seems that positions like this reflect the typical Western reluctance to view both objective reality and experiential reality as equally "real" and valid. No doubt, in our attempt to separate ourselves from the mysticism of the past, we sometimes throw out the baby with the bathwater. What if someone simply has experienced astral projection, and yet nothing physical has taken place. Was the astral projection experience "real"? In terms of objective, physical reality, perhaps not. But the *experience* was real, therefore, in the domain of experiential reality, it was a genuine event. There is plenty of blurring of the boundaries between these two domains, and some things may seem to belong to one, and in fact belong to the other, or both. But it is important to know that some very real events have no physical, measurable manifestation, other than the physiology of the brain that produces the (possibly) illusory experience.