Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!aecom!berger From: berger@aecom.UUCP (Mitchell Berger) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Mutually Exclusive Claim. Message-ID: <1723@aecom.UUCP> Date: Sat, 1-Jun-85 21:49:57 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1723 Posted: Sat Jun 1 21:49:57 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Jun-85 20:14:57 EDT References: <2336@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Yeshiva University Lines: 26 > > Why is that trouble? If God is not part of the universe, > > what prevents Him from acting, affecting, or manifesting in the > > universe? Further, what prevents God from doing whatever He > > wishes to do? > > You assume a " creator ", along with some form of " > substance ". A " GOD " would reside in a hierarchically higher > dimensional level than our limited dimensions. However, there is > a limit to the hierarchy, and it is not clear that we exist in a > lower one, that is, it is possible that we ARE the highest level > in this particular system. There is an alternative here that I don't see anyone else discussing. There is such a thing as un-dimentional, not zero dimentional (a point), or infinitely dimentional, but a mode of existance in which the concept is meaningless. As an example, look at mass. When I say that a force has no mass, am I really saying that the mass is zero? Maybe Gd exists in a non-dimentional non-universe. How many dimentions do emotions have? BTW, why must there be a finite hierarchy? Why must there be "substance"? What kind of substance, premordial, or Gd's? I don't understand what you mean, or why this statement nessecitates the existence of either. -- Micha Berger 2525 Amsterdam Ave. Suite M406 NY, NY 10033 (212) 781-0756 {philabs|cucard|pegasus|rocky2}!aecom!berger