Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site bonnie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!emh From: emh@bonnie.UUCP (Edward M. Hummel) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: "speed of light" puzzle Message-ID: <489@bonnie.UUCP> Date: Sun, 26-May-85 17:52:13 EDT Article-I.D.: bonnie.489 Posted: Sun May 26 17:52:13 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 27-May-85 00:39:41 EDT References: <1720@ut-ngp.UUCP> <578@lll-crg.ARPA>, <136@heurikon.UUCP> <471@hou2g.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany NJ Lines: 22 >> Consider the point of intersection of the blades of a scissors. >> Picture a BIG scissors - mile long blades. As you close the >> scissors, the point of intersection could move faster than the >> speed of light even though the blades are moving "slowly". >This isn't true. The blades of the scissors are held together >by E&M forces between the atoms. When the handle is squeezed, >the E&M force won't be transmitted to the far end of the blades >any faster than C. The result is that the blades will "bend". >The point of intersection of the blades will propigate no faster >the "bend" - the speed of light. Sorry, Jim, but it is true. The propagation of "motion" along a rigid body is indeed limited by the "forces between the atoms". A push on one end of an object takes a while to propagate to the other end of the object (the speed of sound gives a first order estimate). But once the motion has been obtained the point of intersection of a large pair of scissors indeed can travel faster than c. Ed Hummel ...!ihnp4!clyde!bonnie!emh