Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site oddjob.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!crsp!gargoyle!oddjob!matt From: matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: A thought experiment on freezing water Message-ID: <765@oddjob.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-May-85 22:00:04 EDT Article-I.D.: oddjob.765 Posted: Thu May 30 22:00:04 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 31-May-85 06:28:03 EDT References: <455@leadsv.UUCP> Reply-To: matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) Distribution: na Organization: U. Chicago, Astronomy & Astrophysics Lines: 25 Keywords: water,cooling,heat In article <455@leadsv.UUCP> morse@leadsv.UUCP (Terry Morse) writes: >There has been a discussion in net.cooks (of all places) of whether >or not it is possible to freeze hot water faster than cold water, all else >being equal. > >There have been several explanations as to why it might happen. .... (This is an excelent argument for increased funding of science instruction at the elementary school level.) Assumption: The temperature of an object never takes a sudden jump, it varies continuously, although in some cases the change is rapid. Then consider two samples of water, one hot and one cold. At some time the hot sample will cool down to the initial temperature of the cold water. How will it then freeze faster than the cold water? You might argue that some of the hot water will have evaporated and that under some con- ditions the initially hot water could then freeze faster due to its lesser volume, but then I will say that "a given size ice cube can never be formed more quickly from hot water than from cold." _____________________________________________________ Matt University crawford@anl-mcs.arpa Crawford of Chicago ihnp4!oddjob!matt