Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf4.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!acf4!mms1646 From: mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: news item Message-ID: <1340101@acf4.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-May-85 01:59:00 EDT Article-I.D.: acf4.1340101 Posted: Fri May 24 01:59:00 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 25-May-85 06:55:53 EDT References: <602@digi-g.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 37 >/* mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) / 5:29 pm May 22, 1985 */ >> If all groups do not receive the same amount of protection, then some >> groups are 'protected classes.' >Groovy. Now, how do you measure protection? By dollars? By federal programs? >Or by effectiveness of the protection? If we all expect to be protected from >discrimination, and minorities are less effectively protected then which is the >protected class? You are quite right that it is ludicrous to measure such things. However, it is not essential to the point I am making to be able to measure them. My intention was to show that since protections are either equal or unequal, and in one case they amount to the forced advancement of one group at the expense of another (when unequal), and in the other they amount to a needless inefficiency (when equal), they should be eliminated. >> If all groups receive the same amount of protection, then why not just get >> rid of the protections entirely? >If we are all clothed adequately, why not get rid of the clothing entirely? > >:-( Analogy? >You know, it's attitudes like yours, Mike, that are slowly convincing me >(by example) of Marxist ideas like "class interests". > >Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh Do attitudes really persuade you regarding the validity of ideas?! In any event, you can't refute an argument by criticizing the arguer, even if those criticisms are valid. Mike Sykora