Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!hplabs!sdcrdcf!barryg From: barryg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Lee Gold) Newsgroups: net.women,net.politics Subject: Re: Pride (re Ed Hall's mind) Message-ID: <2024@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Sat, 25-May-85 13:52:45 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.2024 Posted: Sat May 25 13:52:45 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 26-May-85 20:28:48 EDT References: <385@ttidcc.UUCP> <305@mhuxr.UUCP> <327@h-sc1.UUCP> <2473@randvax.UUCP> <1377@watdcsu.UUCP> <2502@randvax.UUCP> Reply-To: barryg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Lee Gold) Organization: System Development Corp. R+D, Santa Monica Lines: 17 Xref: utcs net.women:5273 net.politics:8878 Summary: If one should only take pride in what one oneself is, then it's a knotty philosophic problem as to whether one is morally entitled to pride in the achievements of one's past. (Certainly it's easy enough to say that one has outgrown the stupidities of one's youth and shouldn't be ashamed of them any more. By the same token, if one's gotten lazy, is one entitled to pridefully boast about the accomplishments of one's long lost youth?) In practice, one takes pride in ANYTHING one identifies with. And for most of us that takes in a lot of territory. Our youth, our family, our friends, our co-workers, our co-religionists, our compatriots, our fellow women (or men), our fellow humans--and once we contact the dolphins or Martians or whatever--our fellow sentients. First convince a sports fan not to be proud of the home team. Then come back and tell the net alll you've learned about pride. --Lee Gold