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From: ritter@spp1.UUCP (Phillip A. Ritter)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: The net's favorite form of argument (reply to Cramer)
Message-ID: <199@spp1.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 24-May-85 12:55:26 EDT
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Posted: Fri May 24 12:55:26 1985
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Reply-To: ritter@spp1.UUCP (Phillip A. Ritter)
Organization: TRW, Redondo Beach  CA
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In article <528@sftig.UUCP> nebula@sftig.UUCP (nebula) writes:
>
>> I disagree.  Affirmative action IS rascist (sexist, etc.) in theory,
>> because the money to pay for outreach programs, etc. is extracted
>> coercively by the gov't.  Thus, affirmative action entails the
>> gov't. forcing all groups to pay for the ostensible advancement of
>> one group.
>>
>>					Mike Sykora
>
>This is the sort of rubbish bred from ignorance!  Not to mention the inaccuracy of
>the statement, but the underlying inuendos make my blood boil.  Don't you ever watch
>60 minutes or 20/20 even?  Try reading up on it and getting the facts before trying
>to such this sort of falaciously opinionated rhetoric of on those who read the net.
>
>						Doug Donahue
>						AT&T Information Systems
>						attunix!dr_d
>						201 522 6175

Ah, 60 minutes and 20/20!  Such reliable and unbiased sources of raw facts,
never couched within any one groups personal opinions!

Seriously, I completely agree that everyone should always read up on and at
least attempt to understand an issue before making broad statements of supposed
facts (asking dumb questions is always ok - how else do we learn).  However, if
your facts are really based simply on TV magazines then you are the one spewing
``rubbish bread from ignorance'' (at least you suggested reading up on things,
though you forgot to mention that anyone can select a set of newspapers,
journals, magazines, reports, etc. that will appease her/his own opinions; it is
the READERS responsibility to see to it that (s)he is getting an unbiased view
of the facts).

As to affirmative action I have definate opinions, but I don't think I'll
express them here (they'd probably just end up clouding a good flame with
facts).

Phil Ritter
TRW
-- 
Phillip A. Ritter