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From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER)
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Subject: JJ on Propaganda:(probably a waste of time)
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Date: Tue, 28-May-85 10:42:24 EDT
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jj wants to know:
> Tim,
> 	It's obvious that people aren't immune to propaganda, indeed
> your own note demonstrates the same quite satisfactorily.  The only
> question I have for you is:
> 	Why are you constantly spouting the "blind adherence to free enterprise
> myth" phrase at us.  That, in itself, is a phrase that has been used by
> "leftists" <I use the quotes of contempt, there are many kinds of
> leftist, just like there are many kinds of middle of the road people, Tim>
> for many years.  
>       .........
> Why do you not examine the bankrupt rhetoric that
> you insist on placing before us at least once a week?
> -- 
> (ihnp4/allegra)!alice!jj

I repeat the phrase "blind adherence to the free enterprise myth" because
that's what is repeated by Michael Sykora and many others on the net.
When Mr. Sykora suggests that it is some sort of crime for *anyone* to pay
taxes then I find this a ludicrous assumption even on the part of many
Libertarians who in general support the myth that somehow leaving the
government totally out of the economy will resort in the laissez faire 
utopia.  When others suggest that public education should be scrapped
despite strong evidence that it has been a key factor in the growth of our
economy in the past I also find this flying in the face of reality.
When Mr. Sykora admits that he has never heard of the "cobweb effect" by
which a free market can develop wild oscillations (all following the
theoretical formulations of neoclassical "free market" economics)
then I wonder about his understanding of the "free market" that he touts
as the answer to all economic problems in general.
 
As for examining my own assumptions I certainly do that.  You do not
hear me spouting the rhetoric of "exploitation" - nor do I tout total
government interference in the economy.  As I pointed out in my article
socialists often have their own blind spots - one of them being 
the assumption that collectivization would improve agrculture's benefits
to the masses.
              tim sevener  whuxl!orb