Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!robg From: robg@mmintl.UUCP (Robert Goldman) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: Re: Problems with libertarianism.:"coercion" re to jj Message-ID: <408@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-May-85 10:24:11 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.408 Posted: Thu May 23 10:24:11 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Jun-85 13:03:25 EDT References: <485@cybvax0.UUCP> <2380007@acf4.UUCP> Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 18 The discussion of the speed limit or lack thereof in Germany seems to illustrate the difficulties libertarianism has with issues of social cost. As I understand it (and you are free to correct me if I am wrong), the motivating force behind the imposition of speed limits in Germany is neither safety nor fuel conservation, but pollution control. Germany has a very bad acid rain problem, especially in the Black Forest, and I had read that this was what caused agitation for a speed limit. It seems to me that issues like this, involving scarce resources `owned' by society at large (e.g., the water supply, the atmosphere), are issues which libertarianism has a great deal of difficulty coping with. Robert Goldman A Motorcyclist @MultiMate Int'l. "Drive Safely and considerately; the life you save may be my own." The opinions expressed here are those of the writer alone, and not his employer's, etc.