Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ames.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!ames!jaw From: jaw@ames.UUCP (James A. Woods) Newsgroups: net.puzzle Subject: Re: Alphabet soup Message-ID: <999@ames.UUCP> Date: Mon, 20-May-85 16:49:59 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.999 Posted: Mon May 20 16:49:59 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 23-May-85 03:27:58 EDT References: <5370@ucla-cs.ARPA> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 30 # A is for Amy who fell down the stairs, B is for Basil assaulted by bears... -- "Gashlycrumb Tinies" excerpt, Edward St. John Gorey > What is the current record for shortest meaningful sentence that uses all the > letters of the alphabet? Guess you missed all the hoopla last year in the annals of net.puzzle about the minimal English pangram: Jocks vend, fix, quartz BMW glyph. which can loosely be interpreted as the destiny of a certain hood ornament curio sold at a fraternity garage sale. This was discovered by postprocessing some VAX 11/750 output after running about six CPU hours of very optimized C code. If you're interested in the original postings, or want my paper on the anagram algorithm, send a note this way. Of course, human-concocted phrases like this have been done before -- see the Guinness book, or better yet, "Palindromes and Anagrams" by Bergerson [Dover, 1973]. On a similar topic, kudos to Guy Jacobson for the minimal (?) ordered alphaset containment code. The relaxed version of the original puzzle looks interesting, too. By changing a routine in my anagram program, I believe I can get some answers on this one, though I'm not sure they'll beat the 4-word posting. More fun for "web2" on a Cray (when do I get that account on the 2, Seymour?). Stay tuned ... -- James A. Woods ames!jaw or, jaw@riacs