Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site peora.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!peora!jer From: jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) Newsgroups: net.rec.photo Subject: Re: Ektachrome 22 reversal paper Message-ID: <980@peora.UUCP> Date: Sun, 26-May-85 22:23:50 EDT Article-I.D.: peora.980 Posted: Sun May 26 22:23:50 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 30-May-85 00:19:52 EDT References: <426@tymix.UUCP> Organization: Perkin-Elmer SDC, Orlando, Fl. Lines: 40 >The only remaining drawback is that I cannot use the neat little Ciba drum >for processing Ektachrome 22 with this kit because of the large volumes of >water recommended. The pre-soak requires 16 oz and the intermediate rinses >require 12 oz. Kodak recomments more or less equivalent amounts of water for the pre-soak step in developing with Ektaprint 2 (500ml). I solve this problem with my Cibachrome drum by stuffing it down into the tub of water that I use to keep my chemicals warm in until it gets about half full of water, then rolling it around like a log in the water until it gets wet. The main reason they recommend so much water, I think, is to get the paper wet so it will stick to the sides of the drum, in case it is raised up away from the drum surface at first. I'm glad to see someone else who is not of the high-color-saturation school of photography. There seems to be this competitive trend among the film/paper manufacturers to increase color saturation all the time, and the one with the most saturated colors wins the customers. An advantage of the Kodak "professional" negative films which Kodak doesn't tell you about (I don't know if this is true of the slide films or not, but it may be) is that the VPS films have a lower, more natural, level of colors. Kodak's amazingly unscientific document "E-6", which purports to compare the professional and consumer films, neglects to ever mention this, but it is readily apparent in the pictures of the standard negatives in the book "Printing Color Negatives" (E-66), and also in practice. (If you WANT more color saturation, VCS has 15% more.) In the new Ektacolor papers, this is also true; the "Professional" Ektacolor is supposed to be more or less equivalent to the old 74 paper, while the "Plus" paper is more or less equivalent to the old 78 paper. (Though I'll confess, I use the "Plus" paper a good bit.) -- Full-Name: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642 "Nyy gur jbeyq'f n INK; naq nyy pbzchgre cebtenzzref, zreryl Erchoyvpnaf."