Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Evidences for Religion Message-ID: <1020@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1020 Posted: Wed Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 03:40:48 EDT References: <2006@decwrl.UUCP> <749@rayssd.UUCP> <323@scgvaxd.UUCP> <324@scgvaxd.UUCP> <325@scgvaxd.UUCP> <326@scgvaxd.UUCP> <327@scgvaxd.UUCP> Organization: The Chartered Accountants Who Want to Be Lion Tamers Association Lines: 30 > Evidence For The Historical Jesus Again, whether or not a man named Jesus walked the earth and said the things he is attributed with saying is irrelevant to proving the notions of divinity surrounding his existence in Christian thought. > The references in the Talmud demonstrate some knowledge of Jesus as > a historical figure but gives some indication of the scorn with which > Rabbi's regarded him. > > For example, one passage refers to the hanging of Jeshu of Nazareth > and mentions his practice of sorcery. Another refers to five disciples > of Jesus by name, but none of the names coincide with the Gospels. Could this be an error? :-? It's not surprising that Jewish documents mention such a person and even call him a sorcerer. Just as the disciples were writing documents (commercials?) glorifying him, those who were against him (the status quo) said negative things about him. None of this is either surprising or relevant to "objective evidence". > There is a reference to Him departing and coming again. One portion > warns that this man will lead the whole world astray. Another example of an unearthed accurate historical document (and one that made a valid prediction?--or was it really Jesus who led people astray?) -- "to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human being can fight and never stop fighting." - e. e. cummings Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr