Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!aecom!teitz From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Refuting Abominable Logic Message-ID: <1732@aecom.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 15:48:13 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1732 Posted: Mon Jun 3 15:48:13 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Jun-85 00:34:51 EDT References: <581@sfmag.UUCP> <3780056@csd2.UUCP> Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 41 > If Rosen wants to show that the Torah is not tolerant he is right. > The Torah is not tolerant to murderers,incest,homosexuals,sabath > desecrators,idol worshipers etc....... > Don't like it ?? Think it is wrong ??? Who are you against G-ds > infinite wisdom ??? Is your puny brain what decides right from wrong > and truth from false ??? > Now we are going to hear insults back and forth about who's brain is punier. X's for accepting ( believing ) the fact that G-D exists, or Y's for refuting it. Let's stop it before it starts. We are getting as bad here, with all the name calling, as our cousins on the other religion nets. I was always impressed in the past with the level of tolerance on this particular news group. The scholarship here rivals all other groups I have read. So, too, the sincerity of questionas and answers. However, recenly, I have seen a disturbing trend. People are reacting with too much emotion and not enough thought. This does not apply to only one side of the argument, but to all sides, in all arguments. Before we used to have discussion, now we have arguments. Let's get back to discussions. We can still have a nice, open forum to discuss all matters. Namecalling and insults do not add to the logic of an article; they only diminish the logic. If one sees flames jumping from the screen in an article, one tends to lose respect for the poster. If you are truly convinced of you side, you won't have to belittle the opponent to win. So, please, let's get n.r.j back on the right path. Let's put an end to name calling and insulting. If yyou can't control yourself, post to net.flame. You'll find pleasant company there. We just finished the counting of s'firat ha'omer ( counting the days between passover and pentacost ). The Talmud relates that during these day Rabbi Akiva lost 24,000 students in a plague, because they did not give each other the proper respect. Whether we are on the level of R. Akiva's students or not should not deter us from learning a lesson ffrom their deaths. Let usall give more respect to each other. This does not mean that we cannot have disagreements. But, these disagreements should be handled in a proper manner. Eliyahu Teitz.