Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sfmag.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!samet From: samet@sfmag.UUCP (A.I.Samet) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re Rights Message-ID: <593@sfmag.UUCP> Date: Sun, 2-Jun-85 14:52:14 EDT Article-I.D.: sfmag.593 Posted: Sun Jun 2 14:52:14 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Jun-85 05:37:49 EDT Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Summit, NJ Lines: 65 > ... your rights end where my rights begin ... The issue of rights is at the heart of many disagreements expressed here and it deserves comment. One argument for respecting men's rights is that the common interest of all men is best served if we all adhere to this principle. This argument establishes rights infringements as wrong because they violate a social norm subscribed to by members of society, for society's perceived benefit. Under this view, the limit on personal rights is determined solely by the principle of personal rights, i.e., your rights cannot infringe on mine. A second argument is that man is inherently endowed with certain inalienable rights. For some, this position relatively axiomatic, in the sense that they don't see any real need to prove it, and can't understand how anyone could think otherwise. A third argument is very close to the second. Man's endowment with rights stems from the religious perspective that he is somewhat sacred, being created in the image of G*d. According to this position, the ultimate reason for respecting others, and respecting their rights, would be because of man's inherent sanctity. Historically, this view pervaded Western society, and in that sense, its incorporation into our legal system reflects our heritage of so-called "judao-christian" values. It's safe to say that the Torah sees certain validity in the first and third arguments. (The second one is unnecsary in that the third provides a basis for what was taken axiomatically in the second.) In many cases the consequences are the same for all three positions. In others, the third view would lead to different conclusions. The reason for this is that this view sees G*d, in contradistinction to Man, as the ultimate arbiter of values. In this sense, it would place morality above ethics. (People often use the term morality and ethics interchangibly. I am selecting a usage which stresses the distinction between values stemming from a Divine imperative and those which are necessary for orderly human relations.) In applying the third view, the Torah might require capital punishment for certain religious sins. This would override any right to life which would be posited by purely man-centered value systems. In such cases, it would appear that the Torah sees man's sanctity as second to some other realm of sanctity, or perhaps that certain actions undermine his sanctity or threaten to corrupt the basic sanctity of mankind. Such considerations would seem to take precedence, in the Torah view, over argument #1. As an aside, Christianity attempts, on the one hand to subscribe to the Torah, and on the other hand to advocate tolerance towards some practices which the Torah views harshly. The liberal tendencies of modern humanism stem in part from such biases which are tracable to Christianity. Again, the issue of capital punishment is a case in point. Intelligent debate over rights issues (and others) requires us to identify the relevant sacred cows rather than to posit their sanctity. An approach which ignores its own underlying dogmas and simultaneously attacks the Torah view as dogmatic and arbitrary is blindly biased and self-righteous. Yitzchok Samet