Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Starship Troopers Message-ID: <457@psivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-May-85 19:09:58 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.457 Posted: Thu May 16 19:09:58 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 23-May-85 01:02:18 EDT References: <147@yetti.UUCP> <1331@reed.UUCP> <168@hyper.UUCP> <701@ncoast.UUCP> <1520@reed.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 29 Summary: In article <1520@reed.UUCP> wab@reed.UUCP (William Baker) writes: > >> What is it everyone sees wrong with STARSHIP TROOPERS? >> > > The main problem with Starship Troopers is that it >glorifies war. John Rico, the main character, spends most of the >book watching his buddies get blown away, all the while moralizing >to himself on the necessity of war. In the future of Starship >Troopers, the planetary government consists exclusively of veterans >and only veterans can vote. The overall theme is that people who >do not wish to serve in the military are social parasites. .... > However, even this premise can be turned on its head. The >most obvious example of this is Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War". >Haldeman takes Heinlein's premise and some of his plot and turns >the values around. It is exactly what one would expect from >someone who read Heinlein avidly but also served in Vietnam >(Haldeman). Great stuff. Another book which turns the idea on its head, and which is even closer to Starship Troopers in plot structure &c is "Naked to the Stars" by (I think) Phillip K Dick. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen