Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site mtgzz.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!drutx!mtuxo!mtgzz!leeper From: leeper@mtgzz.UUCP (m.r.leeper) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <773@mtgzz.UUCP> Date: Wed, 22-May-85 23:24:11 EDT Article-I.D.: mtgzz.773 Posted: Wed May 22 23:24:11 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 24-May-85 02:15:26 EDT References: <-174400@topaz.UUCP> <15200006@hpfclp.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Middletown NJ Lines: 43 >I also loved DRAGONSLAYER (although I could have done >without a few scenes, like the baby dragons munching on the >girl!). That scene was not in the original script, I am told. It had to be put in. Why? People were coming away from the film with a tear in their eyes and a lump in their throat saying "He killed the BABY dragons???" Or at least they wanted to prevent that from happening. If you have to have your hero kill a baby something you pretty much have to establish that it was the right thing to do. I tend to be pretty ambivalent about violence in film, so the scene did not bother me (in fact I was delighted to see that they did not take the easy way out and save everyone who is virtuous -- heros do become martyrs sometimes but rarely in light fantasy films), but it seems to be one of the most common complaints about the film. > >I thought the dragon must obviously have been done by two >different groups: one did the closeup shots (all the >Land_of_the_Giant-type dragon-on-a-crane effects that were >obviously huge props), and another, VERY talented group did >the breathtaking scenes of the dragon in flight. The scene >of the battle between the dragon and the wizard are about >the best shots of a dragon I have ever seen. All done by Industrial Light and Magic, I think but obviously one is stop-motion and the other is full-sized mockups. The same approaches as in KING KONG ('33). Yes, the Dragon is by far the best thing about the film. She is beautiful and is the only dragon I have ever seen on film that looks like she could fly. A marvelous creations. Also she is the most sympathetic character for me. I love the scene where the visitors pull out the dragon scale to impress the wizard and his response is "You know, when a dragon gets this old it knows nothing but pain." Vermithrax Pejoritive (sp?) just wanted to live out her days and raise her babies, eating the occasional offering if it is there. When her babies are killed and she gives out that plaintive cry I really feel it myself. And she is the last of the dragons... Mark Leeper ...ihnp4!mtgzz!leeper