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From: bsa@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery)
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Subject: 2010 -- again. . .
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Date: Thu, 30-May-85 00:14:02 EDT
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Summary: Not again!

Expires:

Quoted from <687@udenva.UUCP> ["Re: Criticizing the critics - out of the closet..."], by showard@udenva.UUCP (showard)...
+---------------
| > 1) Jupiter ==> star ending was also in the book, don't blame the movie.
|      
|    That's irrelevant.  It was in the movie; it was stupid; therefore the
| movie contains a stupid plot device.

Only stupid if you don't know the whole story.  Read the book.  It was obvious
from the time we discovered (in the book; it was mostly dropped from the movie)
that the Europan life forms wanted/needed more light and warmth, and were very
near the aliens' monolith.

| > 2) Yes, ending was ...not up to the rest, but compare with the ending
| >    of the immortal 2001, it was probably better - unless you think that
| > a totally irrelevany, unintelligible ending is a good thing just so they
| >   leave the theater thinking.
| 
|    2001 ended the way it should have--ambiguous, like the rest of the film.
| 2010, on the other hand, gave me the impression of:  well, we've got all this
| stuff left over from the first film to clear up, and we've got all this US-
| USSR conflict, and we've shot 89 minutes--let's whip up a happy ending.

(1) The ending of 2001 is something that would HAVE to be conveyed in print,
at least until they get the ``Brainstorm'' machines going :-).  I don't know
of any way to really portray what was going on on the screen.

(2) If you think the ``Peace'' think was merely hacked in to make a happy
ending by some damfool producer, I suggest you re-read CHILDHOOD'S END and many
of Clarke's shorter works.  I can assure you that it was done with his full
knowledge and consent.

| "You never know.  Some things disguise themselves as food."

[This food ration is in reality a Mimic!]

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