Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site peora.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!peora!jer From: jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.social Subject: Re: What people look for in MOTAS Message-ID: <990@peora.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 21:52:37 EDT Article-I.D.: peora.990 Posted: Tue May 28 21:52:37 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 30-May-85 04:10:04 EDT References: <968@peora.UUCP> <1424@mtx5b.UUCP> Organization: Perkin-Elmer SDC, Orlando, Fl. Lines: 41 Xref: watmath net.singles:7099 net.social:563 >For those that don't know, the author is Dale Carnagie, and the book's main >theme is that you have to give the people you deal with the things they >need most, and doing that requires respect and consideration, properly >followed. No. I am not an environment generator, out to make you happy, so I can "win" your friendship, or "influence" you. I definitely have many things I believe strongly, some of which you may vehemently differ with. Now, I have good friends who differ strongly with my opinions; but they are strong people, who do not "need most" anything from me. Others of my friends are not so strong; the are what Ms. Mallison called "insecure" a few articles back, maybe; yet perhaps I do give them something they need most, but it is what I believe in, and what I am, not what I perceive they need. Miss Manners makes this point well, in fact. You must distinguish between your business relationships and your personal ones. I think Mr Carnegie's book is a quite good one for a salesman; I do not like it as something a friend of mine would base his or her behavior upon, however. Why do these self-help books exist? Why do you need a formula for living? Only a handful of books in the self-help and psychology section of the book- store are really worth reading; and some of those, I am not so sure of. "The Farther Reaches of Human Nature," I have mentioned before. "Love and Limerance," by Dorothy Tennov, is also a good book. Sometimes I think the book "Pairing," by some person named Bach, is also good, though it takes a certain frame of mind and state of life for it to say much. Oh, how could I forget "Walden". After you have done that, you can read literature; especially Southern Literature, if you ask my opinion; and when you find you enjoy fiction that is not set in outer space and dealing with alien races, then you will begin to feel good about humanity, your fellow humankind. [Avoid books with titles printed in metallic ink.] -- Full-Name: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642 "V'q engure or n puvgva, jerfgyrq va n frrq bhgjbea, Naq urne byq Rora, jvaqvat n fvyrag ubea."