Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-h.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-h!nichols From: nichols@cmu-cs-h.ARPA (David Nichols) Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: The view from Pittsburgh Message-ID: <216@cmu-cs-h.ARPA> Date: Sat, 1-Jun-85 03:07:07 EDT Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-h.216 Posted: Sat Jun 1 03:07:07 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Jun-85 07:28:39 EDT Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 52 My impression of the rumored Detroit trade (Candelaria for Berenger, Castillo, and Herndon) is that it's a bad deal for the Bucs. I don't really know the players on the Tigers very well, so I looked them up in my shiny new Baseball Encyclopedia (the sixth edition just came out--get one). Berenger is 30, has a 23-32 lifetime record with a 3.89 ERA. Castillo is 28 with a .213 lifetime average and .328 slugging average. Herndon appears to be the prize with a .278 avg, .411 slugging avg, and 74 HR in his ten years in the majors. His K/BB average is about 2.5, so he doesn't get on base a lot, and he isn't a stunning power hitter. Candelaria (31yrs old, 3.10 ERA, 122-80 record) is one of the best pitchers in the NL and is a big part of a struggling pitching staff. The Pirates are hip-deep in average players right now. What they need is some offensive punch (and a return to form by the pitching staff that led the league last year). A genuine, honest-to-God STAR would be super. Thompson looked like he could be that a couple of years ago, Hendrick used to be one, Pena IS one all-around, but no one is doing it all at the plate. (Actually, Johnny Ray is a great average hitter, but you've got have either a few more like him (St. Louis style) or some power). The trades for Hendrick and Kemp were basically gambles that 30+ year-old veterans that were sliding could still put together a good year or two. It isn't working for us, and Herndon looks like more of the same. The Pirates should either pay the price to get someone like Winfield, or they should start a rebuilding process with younger players. All of our recent deals have sent young players away from the organization (not quite--we got a minor league catcher with Hendrick). Also, the Bucs were signing as free agents any ex-major leaguer over 30 that they could find. Dybzinsky was keeping young Sam Kalifa ("the shortstop of the future") at second base for a while in Hawaii. So I was delighted to discover that Pete Peterson had been fired as GM. Only now Joe Brown goes out and trades for Johnny LeMaster!! I dipped into the encyclopedia to confirm my fears but was pleasantly suprised: a .295 lifetime average with a few years over .300. Oops, that was slugging average. Tanner is pleased, wants to start him immediately. LeMaster is 3 for 40 or so this year while Almon, who finally won the shortstop job by default, is batting .269 and has only made one error. Sigh. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - One of the few joys in being a Bucs fan this year is watching Tony Pena behind the plate. I'm not sure what the opposition stealing totals are, but he must be throwing out half of the base runners so far. In a series in St. Louis right after they brought up Coleman, he gunned down 5 of 7 runners in the first two games, picking off another at first (he just GUNS the ball from down on his knees) and got 4 of 8 the next day. He continued the heroics in the ensuing home stand, though I don't have the numbers. -- ARPA: David.Nichols@cmu-cs-h.arpa UUCP: {seismo,decvax,allegra}!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-g!nichols