Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucf-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!peora!ucf-cs!mike From: mike@ucf-cs.UUCP (Ruthless) Newsgroups: net.sport.hockey Subject: Re: NHL Expansion, if any Message-ID: <2037@ucf-cs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-May-85 12:34:31 EDT Article-I.D.: ucf-cs.2037 Posted: Wed May 29 12:34:31 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 30-May-85 20:45:35 EDT References: <1820@watcgl.UUCP> <5566@ucla-cs.ARPA> <511@alberta.UUCP> <512@alberta.UUCP>, <7503@ucbvax.ARPA> Organization: Univ. of Central Florida, Orlando Lines: 41 I agree that Portland and Saskatoon would be two of the better places to try to expand. Hamilton too. Hamilton is about the same size as Calgary or Edmonton, and has a successful CFL franchise. It has always been a mystery to me why Alberta got into the NHL before Hamilton. About expanding in Seattle: Is it really in Vancouver's territory? Wouldn't the political boundary hinder Washington state people from supporting a Canadian based team, both psychologically and physically (Customs and immigration officials can be a real pain)? I was once in Chicago for Blackhawks-Flames matchup. The fans felt that the game was more of a struggle to "Beat Canada", rather than an inter-divisional contest. Not that I'm saying that Chicago fans are the norm of the U.S. NHL franchises. But I do think that fans are more inclined to support teams based in their own country, rather than a team just across the border. The same should be even more true in the case of expansion into the Windsor area. Yes Detroit is next door, but there is a border. I also find it hard to believe that Canadian auto workers are great supporters of the Red Wings with all the bad blood raised over the Canadian branch of the UAW splitting from the international union. Finally, if Saskatoon or Quebec has the population to support an NHL team, than so should Windsor. I recall that a WHA team in Ottawa quickly folded. I was in Ottawa for a couple days last year, and found that Ottawa was a fair sized metropolis in its own right, certainly comparable to Calgary. So I cannot understand why major league hockey wouldn't succeed in Ottawa-Hull. Remember that Calgary once folded a WHA team, yet when the Flames moved in, the team was able to survive -- despite several seasons in a small rink. Perhaps the NHL label was necessary (and maybe envy over Edmonton :-) ). On paper, Ohio should be able to handle one or two franchises, yet WHA and NHL teams there have always died. Does anyone have any theories why? -- Mike Eisler uucp: {ihnp4!decvax,peora}!ucf-cs!mike Dept. of Computer Science arpa: mike.ucf-cs@csnet-relay University of Central Florida csnet:mike@ucf Orlando, FL 32816