Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gitpyr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!gitpyr!robert From: robert@gitpyr.UUCP (Robert Viduya) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: rts/cts - a tutorial on flow control Message-ID: <429@gitpyr.UUCP> Date: Sun, 26-May-85 09:34:21 EDT Article-I.D.: gitpyr.429 Posted: Sun May 26 09:34:21 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 26-May-85 23:52:51 EDT References: <388@gitpyr.UUCP> <1345@amdcad.UUCP>, <879@sdcsvax.UUCP> <5620@utzoo.UUCP> Organization: Georgia Tech, Atlanta Lines: 68 > The ultimate problem here is two slightly-different definitions of what > "data" is. Narrowly speaking, the ASCII control characters are just that -- > *control* characters, not data -- and hence they *are* out-of-band as far > as transmission of ASCII text goes. And what if I want to send a program binary? Doesn't that, from this point of view, qualify as 'data'? > > CTS/RTS is workable at short range, but since those wires were never meant > for flow control, much hardware (modems, local networks, dumb terminal > multiplexors) won't handle it. (What *were* CTS and RTS meant for, you > ask? For turning around half-duplex modems.) > Halfway correct. CTS/RTS has slightly different meanings when operating either under half-duplex or full-duplex mode. To quote from the EIA RS-232-C standard - Aug, 1969 (editted appropriately): "Request To Send (to DCE (data communication equipment)): This circuit is used to condition the local DCE for data transmission and, on a half duplex channel, to control the direction of data transmission of the local DCE. On one way only channels or duplex channels, the ON condition maintains the DCE in the transmit mode. The OFF condition maintains the DCE in non-transmit mode. On a half duplex channel, the ON condition maintains the DCE in transmit mode and inhibits the receive mode. The OFF condition maintains the DCE equipment in receive mode. Clear To send (from DCE): Signals on this circuit are generated by the DCE to indicate whether or not the data set is ready to transmit data. The ON condition together with the ON condition on interchange circuits RTS, DSR and, where implemented, DTR, is an indication to the DTE (data terminal equipment) that signals presented on circuit TD (transmit data) will be transmitted to the communication channel. The OFF condition is an indication to the DTE that it should not transfer data across the interface on circuit TD." That last paragraph has the phrase 'flow-control' written all over it. Unfortunately, the EIA standard only allows the DCE (modem, network box, etc) to flow control the DTE (terminal, computer). It gives no provisions for allowing the DTE to flow-control the DCE. The Ungermann/Bass (sp?) boxes, when set up for RTS/CTS flow control stayed as close to the standard as they could and still allowed for bi-direction flow-control. I'll spare you the details, but I believe they will work properly when connected to a DTE the strictly adheres to the standard. robert -- Robert Viduya Georgia Institute of Technology ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,masscomp,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!robert ...!{rlgvax,sb1,uf-cgrl,unmvax,ut-sally}!gatech!gitpyr!robert