Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: net.wines Subject: The "Women want light beer" fallacy Message-ID: <1231@opus.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 12:28:53 EDT Article-I.D.: opus.1231 Posted: Fri May 31 12:28:53 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 14:20:35 EDT Distribution: net Organization: NBI,Inc, Boulder CO Lines: 43 There seems to be an idea generated within the brewing industry, specifically, the mega-breweries of the U.S., that one of the reasons for the ever-lighter taste of mainstream (sic) beers is to please the palates of women. The brewing industry apparently believes that women are such dainty beings that they can't handle the taste of a full-flavored beer. [It's actually sillier than that; the idea of beer which is "not bitter" seems to be gaining some advertising favor. Interesting concept for a beverage in which one of the four ingredients is present explicitly to provide bitterness...] Anyway, in the past couple of years I've met a number of women who just didn't like beer. As they joined our group of friends, they were exposed to the full-tasting beers (bocks, doppelbocks, porters, and stouts) since the core of the group has always been serious about beer. All of them now enjoy beer--but only the substantial kinds. A few people doesn't make a scientific sampling, but I wonder how many women who "don't really like beer" would find that they really do if they were exposed to a variety of styles and experimented freely instead of having only what's available on the real mass market. I can find two possible interpretations of why the brewing industry wants to feed women (and thus, all of us) the ludicrously light, underhopped beers they're making today. I don't much like either one: - A stupid stereotype of women's tastes. - A ruse to allow them to save money. (Hops and malt are expensive; water is cheap.) The following is from an interview in _Northern_Brewer_, a publication of the Canadian Amateur Brewers Association. They were speaking to Bert Grant--owner/master brewer at Yakima Brewing and Malting Co., and a very outspoken critic of the mainstream brewers. He's a little more to the point than I have been: "All this marketing crap about women liking light beer is shit." (Incidentally, Grant's Imperial Stout was the winner in audience voting at last year's Great American Beer Festival. Since this was a widely- advertised, open-to-the-public event, it seems odd that a public which allegedly likes ever-thinner beers would put a beer with 16.5 deg OG (about 1.066) and 80 BU at the top of the competition!) -- Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 ...Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.