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From: zubbie@ihlpa.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Re:  \"Why Not Send the men home?\"
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Date: Wed, 22-May-85 15:29:06 EDT
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Posted: Wed May 22 15:29:06 1985
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> 
> To engage in actual debate as to the validity of your sister's idea would only
> succeed in giving it even an ounce of validity, a value it does nothing to
> deserve. However, if you are so intent on subduing the male gendre of our
> species, why no make it manditory for all males, old and newborn, to submit
> to partial lobotomy in order to curb their agressive Mr. Hydes'? But you might
> say " This is not fair to the *vast majority* of men who have no violent
> tendencies "?  Well goody for you, and you figured it out all by yourself,
> just like " The Mature Adult-like Woman " I'm sure you think you are. Or maybe
> you are afraid that with lobotomies men won't be able to do the only things
> they are really good for ie: mowing the lawn, fixing the roof, sex, and
> anything else that suits women. Well we all must set our priorities, I guess
> this is one you will have to get through all by yourself. I have full
> confidence in you that you can handle it.
>      If this is an example of a liberated woman's beliefs ( which I'm sure it
> isn't, I believe in thee idea and have no qualms with any of its proponents
> my sister and mother inclusive ) then in the immortal words of Col. Sherman
> T. Potter  (M*AS*H*)  " I'd just as soon chuck the whole kit and kabootle "
> ( or something to that effect ). And to the woman who had the ignorance and/or
> stupidity to post her sister's idea I can only say " don't let your blood
> control your brain "

When was the lsat time you walked down the street,any old time of day will
do, and had some woman drive by and yell an obscenity at you .

When was the last time a woman walked up to you and insisted that she
knew you from somewhere and why not share a drink for "Old Times Sake"
 
I am also sure that most women are physically larger and stronger than
you so that any strange woman approaching you makes you wonder which way
would be the best direction to run in as you go from your plasce of work
to your vehicle after working late of an evening.

Your obvious insensitivity to the issue makes me wonder if perhaps
you are not one of those individuals who would demand that his wife
stay home and be a housewife while you went of to work because after all
"A Woman's Place ......."

 While I don't necessarily advocate a male curfew I do think that some
action of this sort would not be unreasonable because it is already implicit
in our society that such a contrivance exists for women.

If you decide that you want to stroll down to the corner bar for a quick 
brew, well that is just fine and no eyebrows are raise as you enter the
local pub but for an unescorted woman to do the same thing usually evokes
at least the mild thought that "this woman is no lady" or some such 
foolishness. 
The arguement that this would not be FAIR to the majaority of honest moral
and sensitive men is irrelavant because fairness per se is not available
on the other side of the question.

The day that I can really do as I please with my liesure time without 
being concerned about the consequences of merely being a woman I will
also concede that fairness towards men is necessary. If your don't like
the concept as stated then perhaps you would be better off working to
change the status quo instead of berating as stupid and ignorant anyone
who at least has the courage to put out an idea which they feel might 
be unpopular but which does highlight a valuable concept.

Jeanette L. Zobjeck
ihnp4!ihlpa!zubbie
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All opinions expressed herein are strictly my own.
I doubt that my employer would be interested in expressing anything in a 
similar fashion.
anyone who agrees with me does so on their own and at their own risk.
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