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From: aftel@aecom.UUCP (Jeffrey Aftel)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Re: Re:  \"Why Not Send the men home?\"
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Date: Tue, 21-May-85 17:05:06 EDT
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Posted: Tue May 21 17:05:06 1985
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> *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
> >>>My sister
> >>>contends that a curfew for men should be instituted as this would drastical
> ly
> >>>reduce violent crime.
> >>>let men out when willingly accompanied by a woman.
> >>>
> >>>                                    Respectfully,
> >>>                                    Joanne Munson
> >>
> >> April Fools Day was nearly a month ago.
> >>--
> >> Jeff Lichtman at rtech  (Relational Technology, Inc. )
> >> aka swazoo koolak
> >>
> >> {amdahl, sun}!rtech!jeff
> >
> > Nahhh, just arm all the women with firearms.  It might not do much for
> > any violent crimes besides rape (where it would br *real* effeective), but
> > it would certainly discourage petty harrassment.
> >
> > What?  That's a stupid idea?  Compared to a curfew for men?
> 
> To engage in actual debate as to the validity of your sister's idea would only
> succeed in giving it even an ounce of validity, a value it does nothing to
> deserve. However, if you are so intent on subduing the male gendre of our
> species, why no make it manditory for all males, old and newborn, to submit
> to partial lobotomy in order to curb their agressive Mr. Hydes'? But you might
> say " This is not fair to the *vast majority* of men who have no violent
> tendencies "?  Well goody for you, and you figured it out all by yourself,
> just like " The Mature Adult-like Woman " I'm sure you think you are. Or maybe
> you are afraid that with lobotomies men won't be able to do the only things
> they are really good for ie: mowing the lawn, fixing the roof, sex, and
> anything else that suits women. Well we all must set our priorities, I guess
> this is one you will have to get through all by yourself. I have full
> confidence in you that you can handle it.
>      If this is an example of a liberated woman's beliefs ( which I'm sure it
> isn't, I believe in thee idea and have no qualms with any of its proponents
> my sister and mother inclusive ) then in the immortal words of Col. Sherman
> T. Potter  (M*AS*H*)  " I'd just as soon chuck the whole kit and kabootle "
> ( or something to that effect ). And to the woman who had the ignorance and/or
> stupidity to post her sister's idea I can only say " don't let your blood
> control your brain "

	  PLEASE READ ON !
P.S. I think we all need a lesson in justice and crime/punishment.

     The idea in America is innocent * until * proven guilty

     not vice versa or on the basis of any statistical evidence.

     Its very nice to bring proof that men cause most violent crimes

     but for those of us who would never contemplate such an act

     the proposal is highly insulting. To say women have had to live with

     the crewdness of some men does not give anyone permishion to

     bestow upon men the very same injustice no matter what the evidence

     against him. To quote a cliche " two wrongs don't make a right ".


						    Jeff the Passive