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From: greenber@timeinc.UUCP (Ross M. Greenberg)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: ``they'' vs *US*
Message-ID: <198@timeinc.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 21-May-85 17:56:07 EDT
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Posted: Tue May 21 17:56:07 1985
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In article <442@sftri.UUCP> mom@sftri.UUCP (Mark Modig) writes:
>
>The trouble with your analogy is that it falls apart too soon.  The
>situations are not synonymous, to wit:
>
>Defendant: I'm sorry, Judge, but when I saw those bills hanging about
>           of his pockets I couldn't help myself.
>
>Judge: No excuse.  Take him away.
>
>*** VS. ***
>
>Defendant:  I'm sorry, Judge, but when I saw her dressed like that,
>I just couldn't help myself.
>
>Judge:  I guess so.  Well, we'll just have to take the provocative dress
>        account...
>
>The second case here still happens all too often, with the judge now
>musing about questions like "Did she ask for it?".

Really??? Mark, this might be another one of those myths that
somebody was talking about becoming inherent in this group.  When, in
the last *ten* years have you ever heard of a case where a judge would
even consider this type of foolishness??

That sort of backwardness with todays watchful media eye would have
made the papers, wouldn't it?? Maybe I read the wrong papers....I haven't
noticed it in the NY Times, or the Wall Street Journal. Haven't seen
it in NOW Newletter or Ms. Mag.  Where are you pulling these stats from?

There's been a lot of talk about a case from about 20 years ago. 
Times are changing.  And a women still, I feel, reduces her chance of 
being raped if she is concious that her actions might trigger 
the sickie out there.  It still isn't *her* fault.

I never meant to imply that it was.




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