Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cuuxa.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!bellcore!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!nwuxg!cuuxc!cuuxa!frye From: frye@cuuxa.UUCP (frye) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: rape and other assorted stuff Message-ID: <191@cuuxa.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 05:47:37 EDT Article-I.D.: cuuxa.191 Posted: Tue May 28 05:47:37 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 24-May-85 07:45:03 EDT Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Technologies CSD, Lisle, Il. Lines: 51 Is Chuck Ferrara into bondage?(-:)Never mind, I don't wanna know. Self defence may have to get violent in some instances. I just feel that if I have to get violent to defend myself, the other guy's gonna wish he hadn't made me stoop to his level. I believe it was Sarah Dugan ( please correst me if I'm wrong) who said that there is a difference between having the means and actually using it. I personally feel that if a lady shoots a rapist in the knee and (please take of the high heels next) gets the hell outa there, she won't have too much trouble with that clown any more. I also believe that the women that we are thinking about on the subject would not just blow someone away just to be doing something (i.e. she got bored). The women who would do that don't deserve our concern. As to legal ramifications--- I personally would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6, and would tell that feeling to the judge. Also, I have taught several women how to shoot. Most have the attitude that would cause them to shoot only if the assailant followed when the lady tried to escape. I like that attitude and would teach a person of that persuasion more readily than someone with a harder more agressive attitude. I think this will probably cover Sanjay Tikku's posting about how I'd feel to occupy "Bernies" shoes. I know a guy who was riding public transportation and also was accosted (sp?) with the intent to relieve him of his money. When he came up with "iron" instead, his assailants suddenly disappeared out the back door. One almost lit himself off on the third rail. My friend never had to fire a shot. Bernie probably wouldn't have had to either but the only one who knows is him. I feel that one should do whatever needs to be done to survive. I don't think our state and federal governments care whether or not a women gets raped but, I do. As I said before, I love women 'cause I owe one nine months carrying charges and the milk bill. Sorry to make this thing so long. Also sorry to make it read a bit on the scattered side. I've been interrupted about 3 times while writing this thing---Now to go home---where's home? Oh, yeah. Don't drink the milk? Sal Who? -Tom Frye-