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From: zubbie@ihlpa.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Re: "provocative" clothing
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Date: Thu, 23-May-85 13:43:20 EDT
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Posted: Thu May 23 13:43:20 1985
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> In article <1549@reed.UUCP> ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) writes:
> >> And if a women wants to reduce her chances of being raped, then
> >> she should not call attention to her sex by dressing provocatively.
> >> Just like if I want to reduce my chance of being mugged, I don't
> >> flash hundred dollar bills.
> >> 
> >I agree with David, you just don't get it, Ross.  Women are not
> >victims of rape SOLELY BASED ON THEIR SEX.  Men are also victims
> >of rape.  Children both male and female are victims of rape.
> >Rape is an expression of one person's ability to physically
> >FORCE another person.  The only thing it has to do with sex is
> >that it is a sexual expression of that power relationship.  Rape
> >is NOT a sexual crime!!!!!
> 
> Pfui!  Armed robbery is an expression of one person's ability to
> physically THREATEN another person.  The only thing it has to do
> with money is that it's a monetary expression of that coercive
> relationship.  Robbery is not a monetary crime!!!!!
> 
> So there.  See. I can argue like a feminist, too.
> -- 
> 	David Canzi
> 
OK
That's great but I bet that if you are robbed you will recoup your loss
either through insurance or by working a bit of overtime to get
**caught up**

How,pray tell, do you expect a rape victim to accomplish the anolog
of either?
 
Your ability to argue as a feminist is as effective as your ability
to choose valid arguments. 

Jeanette Zobjeck
ihnp4!ihlpa!zubbie
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