Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!pesnta!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: rape and abused females Message-ID: <178@kontron.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-May-85 13:16:12 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.178 Posted: Fri May 24 13:16:12 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 25-May-85 09:57:37 EDT References: <187@cuuxa.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 28 > I have an idea that might help on the subject of rape > and abuse of women. Let's get a few more women judges > up there on the bench. I also think that the punishment > for these crimes should be decided by the victim not > the judge. > Nice idea, but those of us who live in California know better. Unfortunately, a great many women appointed to the bench have associated themselves politically with ideas like "society is responsible for crime". A good example is Rose Bird, Chief Justice of the California Supreme Court. One would expect that a women would be very sympathetic to a rape victim, and very unsympathetic to a rapist. One of the early cases that generated anger from the conservatives out here towards Rose Bird involved a rapist convicted of rape. Along with the rape charge had been added a charge of "causing great bodily harm". Rose Bird felt that the Legislature had inadequately defined "great bodily harm", and ordered a new trial. What had the rapist done that the jury felt constituted "great bodily harm"? He stuck a four-inch knife blade upto the hilt into her abdomen. Rose Bird didn't feel confident that the jury had made the right choice, even without a detailed definition of "great bodily harm". Sometimes, the biggest enemy a woman has in California, is a woman.