Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!sophie From: sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: Re: "provocative" clothing Message-ID: <877@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Mon, 27-May-85 21:27:54 EDT Article-I.D.: mnetor.877 Posted: Mon May 27 21:27:54 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 28-May-85 11:50:12 EDT References: <734@oddjob.UUCP> <193@timeinc.UUCP> <1549@reed.UUCP> <1397@watdcsu.UUCP> <253@ihlpa.UUCP> <1415@watdcsu.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 38 HMMMMMMMMMMM HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM (clearing my throat) This "provocative clothing" discussion is starting to make me EXTREMELY angry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know that some of you men out there are trying to be "helpful" by explaining to us poor women that "provocative" clothing might increase our chances of getting raped. Well, you are NOT being helpful; as a matter of fact, you are being absolute nuisances and insulting our intelligence. WE are very aware that any rapist will use whatsoever excuse he can get to be "provoqued" into raping. We are not bumbling idiots. We know very well, that if we wear sexy clothes we will be usually at least accosted once. We know very well that we stand a greater chance of being raped. So, we are very aware of the dangers, much more than any of you are. HOWEVER, we have to live too, you know, and we do occasionally like to dress up and look nice because that's part of the pleasure of being alive. We also like to be attractive, and don't even mind it if strangers find us attractive. Why, after all, we even enjoy looking at attractive strangers ourselves. So, if we are doing all these things, it is because we derive some emotional satisfaction out of it, and (damn it!) life wouldn't be worth living if we could not even enjoy such simple pleasures as looking good. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO WEAR NICE CLOTHES! WE HAVE A RIGHT TO WALK ALONE LATE AT NIGHT! (Add a few "Damn it!" to all of the above and repeat five times) furthermore, NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO RAPE ANYBODY ELSE!! So, could we please concentrate our attentions on the *real* problem: How to stop rapists from raping. -- Sophie Quigley {allegra|decvax|ihnp4|linus|watmath}!utzoo!mnetor!sophie