Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!lsuc!pesnta!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: "provocative" clothing Message-ID: <180@kontron.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 12:36:26 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.180 Posted: Tue May 28 12:36:26 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 29-May-85 03:28:02 EDT References: <734@oddjob.UUCP>, <193@timeinc.UUCP> <766@mtgzz.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 27 > REFERENCES: <734@oddjob.UUCP>, <193@timeinc.UUCP> > > It still seems that men(and probably lots of women) confuse > the act of rape with something resembling sex. You have to get away > from this mental block. It just isn't so. When you consider the > number of just plain women who are raped(women who are minding their > own business, women who are dressed in unassuming clothes, older > women who are being far from provocative) you suddenly realize > that rapes are not commited because the woman was "asking for it." > The only thing the women did to ask for it in most cases of rape > is be born a women. That is all. > Throwing in all this stuff about provocative clothes only > confuses the issue. It throws the responsibility of rape back at > the woman. "Well, look at the way she was dressed. Anyone would > want to jump her bones!" Unfortunately, the fact that you may want > to jump her bones has absolutely nothing to do with rape. It is > an act of domination and that is all. > > Sharon Badian ihnp4!mtgzz!seb If you read what people have been writing, rather than what you *think* they are writing, you would realize that no one here is claiming that provocative dress is "asking for it", and no one here is claiming that *most* rape is the result of provocative dress. The only assertion is that provocative dress may push *a few* rapists over the edge; it would be safest to avoid trouble, just like I avoid trouble by not walking through Watts at night.