Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Denver Mods 7/26/84) 6/24/83; site drutx.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!drutx!butch From: butch@drutx.UUCP (FreemanS) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Discrimination Message-ID: <2896@drutx.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-May-85 18:04:05 EDT Article-I.D.: drutx.2896 Posted: Tue May 28 18:04:05 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 30-May-85 02:35:28 EDT References: <354@iham1.UUCP> <25954@lanl.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 33 After hearing some of the idiotic replies on this topic I felt that I had to add my two cents. I've been hearing people say that they shouldn't be held responsible for something that happened 200 years ago. I get the feeling that most of the ones saying this are in fact white males who have probably felt no discrimination. When slavery ended in 1865, blacks and women still did not have many rights for years. Black's didn't really have a chance at many high paying jobs that white males had until the 1970's. Before the civil rights bill of 1965, many of the Jim Crow law's were in affect in many states. One cannot right all the affects of injustice, oppression, poverty, and second class citizenship with the stroke of a pen in 1965. What affirmative action does is right some of the wrongs of the past by giving people a chance to pull themselves up. What this program does is allows the oppressed group the ablility to catch up so that all people regardless of race or gender will all have a equal shot at realizing all their dreams. Some of the people on the net cannot fathom why they should have to pay for something that happened long ago. Maybe it is ignorance that they can't understand why the effects of 200 years of slavery and a 100 years of oppression weren't remedied 20 years ago in 1965. Wake up people, the effects of such injustice will linger far longer than just a few short years. I just don't understand why people are against something that is helping others out. Why is it so bad to do everything we can to right terrible wrongs. Some individuals think that just because they are so fortunate that somehow if you aren't then it's your fault. Why is it that if a woman or minority gets a promotion, it somehow is not based upon their qualifications. Let's try to be a little bit more open-minded and understanding toward other people.