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From: jeff@rtech.UUCP (Jeff Lichtman)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Ed Hall speaks his mind.
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Date: Mon, 27-May-85 04:45:00 EDT
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Posted: Mon May 27 04:45:00 1985
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> >                                                        ...  First, I don't
> > think it is anyone's business how someone else feels, especially when those
> > feelings are positive.
> 
> ??? What in the world does this *mean*? Is it not any of my business
> if a German feels pride in Adolf Hitler, or a Ugandan in Idi Amin?
> 
> Isaac Dimitrovsky

One of the favorite activities on the net is to take a person's innocent and
reasonable statement to a ridiculous extreme in order to show that he or she
is completely, totally wrong.  How does pride in Adolph Hitler or Idi Amin
fit into the context of the original discussion?  Am I now expected to
formulate a complex theory of when it is allowable to judge another's feelings
and when it isn't?

The original question was whether it should be acceptable for a woman to feel
pride in other women's accomplishments, when it seems ridiculous for men to
feel pride in another man's accomplishments simply because he is a man.  It
annoys me that some people want to get inside other people's minds and tell
them that it is not O.K. to feel something like this.  I feel that, generally,
people don't have the right to tell other people how to feel.  What goes on
inside your head should be your own property.

Of course, I don't believe in this idea absolutely, nor am I interested in
getting into a petty, sophomoric discussion about where to draw the line.
I think my statement is reasonable as it stands, as long as you don't try
to stretch it so thin that it covers the whole universe.

Please note that I am not saying that you claim women who feel pride in
other women are the moral equivalent of Nazis.  In this way, I am being
more reasonable toward you than you were toward me.

Isaac, are you able to get out of bed in the morning without formulating
a theory about it first?
-- 
Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.)
aka Swazoo Koolak

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