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From: jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: re: re: Society and Rape
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Date: Wed, 29-May-85 12:42:13 EDT
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Generally, I have good feelings about your article, Eric, but...

> As I have said before, however, education alone is not the answer.  The
> rapes would be decreased, but not eliminated.  It needs more.  As long
> as a single woman lives in fear of rape, whether by a friend, husband,
> acquaintance, or stranger, all men are guilty of domination.
 
Oh, cut it out. Do you think we can't understand the issue without this
kind of ultra-idealistic hyperbole?

> As men, our guilt is collective if we continue to do nothing to end rape.

No, our *guilt* is non-existent, but our *responsibility* may well be
collective. It's a distinction that is useful when you're trying
to get someone to cooperate with you (as opposed to just beating them,
verbally or otherwise, about the head and shoulders).

> None of us are free of it, and the argument that "I have never raped a
> woman" is no defense.  We benefit materially by our collective domination
> over women, whether by design, or by a conspiracy of societal forces that
> our male ancestors initiated.

We DO ????????????????????????????? I see no benefit to any man who cares
about women.
					Jeff Winslow