Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site wateng.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!wateng!jamcmullan From: jamcmullan@wateng.UUCP (Judy McMullan) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: re: last night Message-ID: <2463@wateng.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 16:03:36 EDT Article-I.D.: wateng.2463 Posted: Fri May 31 16:03:36 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 00:36:51 EDT References: <533@usl.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 22 >So, it would seem that I would be one of those men who would be likely to >excuse the exibitionist, not because I invalidated the woman's feelings, but >because the event wouldn't seem as serious to me. I can see only one >significant difference between the event I just recounted and Ellen's, >which is that being male, the thought of rape would never enter my mind >as a possible consequence of such an event, whereas a woman would be much >quicker to feel herself as attacked, be it only verbal. That IS the significant difference! You didn't expect the woman exhibitionist to physically attack you. That is exactly what a woman in that position could expect. I am constantly amazed at the number of men who fail to understand this. Women are not afraid of men for no reason. Almost all women have been at least verbally sexually harrassed by men and most of them have also had to deal with pinches, slaps, quick "feels", etc. We are all aware that these are mild compared with what has happened to some, unlucky, women. Too often these verbal attacks are the prelude to something much worse. Ellen's original posting didn't make it to this site -- only Joe's reply quoting it. But it sounds like she was very brave... --from the sssstickkky keyboard of JAM ...!{ihnp4|clyde|decvax}!watmath!wateng!jamcmullan