Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site weitek.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!spar!turtlevax!weitek!robertp From: robertp@weitek.UUCP (Robert Plamondon) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Men: you are not individuals Message-ID: <200@weitek.UUCP> Date: Wed, 29-May-85 19:13:07 EDT Article-I.D.: weitek.200 Posted: Wed May 29 19:13:07 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 01:24:21 EDT References: <756@oddjob.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Weitek Corp. Sunnyvale Ca. Lines: 29 In article <756@oddjob.UUCP>, london@oddjob.UUCP (David London) writes: > > So, I say to you men: you are *not* individuals. Society treats you as men, > which, in most cases, has benefited you. Be willing to accept (in part) the > blame for what other members of the group "men" do. And work to change men's > attitudes towards women, blacks, etc. > > David London > ..!ihnp4!oddjob!london I love it! It's *VERY* important, when you want to screw over a whole class of people, to be able to condemn the innocent along with the guilty. David London's exercise in sophistry is a masterful way of arriving at a plausible excuse. As a man, I'm guilty of the crimes of other men -- not because of *MY* actions or *MY* beliefs, but because *OTHER PEOPLE* treat me in a particular way! Since I can't control "society's" attitudes towards men, there is no escape. No redemption for me -- it's sackcloth and ashes time, folks, because I was born white and male. *OH, THE SHAME OF IT ALL!!!!* David, you're a bigot, but I salute you -- you're a very inventive bigot. -- -- Robert Plamondon {ucbvax!dual!turtlevax,ihnp4!resonex}!weitek!robertp