Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!sun!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Blow 'em away Message-ID: <2240@sun.uucp> Date: Wed, 29-May-85 12:43:06 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.2240 Posted: Wed May 29 12:43:06 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 01:32:34 EDT References: <557@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 95 What is not necessarily obvious is that: Those most likely to need a gun to defend themselves (women) Are psychologically the least likely to cary or use one. "God created men, and Colt made them equal": Women are the most likely to need the mechanical advantage of a weapon to give them a fair chance in a fight for their rights against some (typically) male assailant. Women are (typically) raised to be yielding and non-combative (social conditioning) and are (by virtue of their hormonal systems) more passive and less assertive/aggressive than their male counterparts. Left as an exercise for the reader: Poll a local sample of men and women and (I think) you'll find: Men are typically ready and willing to fight for their rights, and to do so in a final way: "Blow them away". Women are typically hesitant to deal with fire arms at all (Why should I stoop to his level and respond to violence with violence?) and more likely to be conciliatory (I'd try to warn him off or only to injure him, rather than going for an immediate kill). Because of these psychological factors, even those few women willing to carry a gun are unlikely to use them (effectively), and even those who try to use them are likely to "lose" in a confrontation by failure to "go for the throat", with a resultant loss (in a scuffle) of the use of the advantage they had by carrying a firearm. Advice to women: Don't carry a firearm unless you know deep in your heart that you are ready and willing to "blow them away" in defense of your rights, because if you don't have that conviction, you'll only succeed in escalating to a deadly level, a situation which otherwise might not be a life or death struggle. An aside: Almost all of my comments above about a woman's psychological mindset about her williingness to use violence in defence of her rights can be thrown out for almost any woman who's ever been raped. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6. Sunny > > In Message <698@teklds.UUCP> dougs@teklds.UUCP (Doug Schwartz) writes: > >You must be joking. One of the commandments of martial arts is that if > >you have gotten yourself in a situation where you must use a weapon you > >don't try this "shoot em in the knee/gouge em in the eye" b*ullsh*t > >you see on TV. It's too damn easy to screw up and miss. If you are > >cornered by someone go for their torso and pull the trigger until they drop. > >It's better if you blow them away than if you just wound them -- less hassle. > > It's frightening to realize that people who think that "it's better to > blow them away than wound them" are in fact the ones who are most likely > to survive. Longevity notwithstanding, however, I *DO NOT* agree. *IF* > the attacker does not run at the sight of the gun, and *IF* the attacker > does not run when you fire a shot near (but not through) his head, and > *IF* the attacker does not run when you shoot at his legs/feet, *MAYBE* > then you should "blow him away". *NOT* before. Certainly not *FIRST*. > > Not that I wouldn't want to, mind you. There's a large chunk of my > heart that would dearly love to rid the face of the earth of all the > vile scum I can. But the whole rest of me just can't live with the > idea of "blowing them away on sight". That's the mindset that cost us > a helluva lot of native Americans. I'm not saying that budding young > rapists and native Americans are equal in any sense. But the "blow 'em > away as a *first* resort" attitude is equally repulsive in either case. > > >Also, you better be prepared to use a weapon if you exhibit it. > > *That* I agree with. > > >Get some martial arts training and some time in at the firing range > > That too. > > >Doug Schwartz > > -- > > --JB "The giant is awake." > > Disclaimer? Who wud claim dis? *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)