Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Arthur Pewtey) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Men: you are not individuals (Bull!) Message-ID: <1014@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 31-May-85 12:50:32 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1014 Posted: Fri May 31 12:50:32 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 03:23:44 EDT References: <756@oddjob.UUCP> <894@mhuxt.UUCP> Organization: The Chartered Accountants Who Want to Be Lion Tamers Association Lines: 19 > I will never accept the blame for someone else's actions, > nor allow anyone to accept the blame for mine. > People are individuals, and they must be treated as such. Treating them > as groups of faceless automata fullfilling societally defined roles is cruel, > unfair, and exactly the kind of behavior which the feminist movement has been > trying to change. > -- > Jeff Sonntag > ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j Yes, but nonetheless, everyone (rightly or not) gets associated with the group to which they're supposed to belong (in the eye of the associator). Undue blame for being associated with a group is just as bad as undue credit for being associated with a group. People SHOULD be treated as individuals, but, let's face it, we're not, and getting benefits just for belonging to a group occurs just as much as people being punished just for belonging to a group. -- "There! I've run rings 'round you logically!" "Oh, intercourse the penguin!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr