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From: gnome@olivee.UUCP (Gary Traveis)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Re: (Contains some explicit text *NOT* for weak-stomached readers)
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Date: Fri, 31-May-85 15:12:05 EDT
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> > >I cannot equate rape with murder.  It is very bad, but murder is worse
> > >(it is hard to recover from being murdered). [...]
> > >	geoff sherwood
> 
> 
> I assume from your long reply detailing the horrors of rape that you disagree
> with geoff's assertion that murder is worse than rape.
> 
> 
> Would you really just as soon be killed as raped? I would appreciate a
> thoughtful and serious answer.
> 
> 
> As you point out, being a man, I deal with the subject in the abstract. But
> sometimes distance gives you better perspective. And then again, sometimes
> not.
> 
> 					Jeff Winslow

A man only deals with rape in the abstract if he has never gone to jail.
After that, it's a bit less abstract.

Also, as far as "women can't walk down the street at night without fear"
and "men don't have these problems" statements are concerned, they are
crap.  If a person walks down a dark street in the wrong area of town
and doesn't have any fear at all, they'll eventually be removed from the
gene pool.  They are the ones that take short-cuts down pitch-black allyways
and wonder why they were picked to be beaten, robbed, or killed.

Street crime is a universal problem that won't go away by legislation.
The only crime that you have control over is the crime that happens to
you or around you.  As with the "use of deadly force" debate, violent crime
is a split-second problem that leaves little time for debate.

If you are going to be singled out for rape or bobbery, for whatever
reason, you had better take precautions.  As a cop-friend tells his
kids - "This is not a dry-run!  This is life..."

People seem to think that, because they live in the USA, they have
an innate right to never be exposed to violent crime.  This may be
true, but there are other people (using the term very losely) that
have different ideas.

Oh well, I should have done this in net.flame, sorry.

	Adaptation is the root of life,

		Gary