Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site terak.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!noao!terak!doug From: doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) Newsgroups: net.works Subject: Re: Big & little machines & problems Message-ID: <582@terak.UUCP> Date: Thu, 30-May-85 16:29:19 EDT Article-I.D.: terak.582 Posted: Thu May 30 16:29:19 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Jun-85 13:17:40 EDT References: <2079@topaz.ARPA> Organization: Terak Corporation, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 41 While I generally agree with Peter's comments, I must take issue with: > - you can write it all in assembler and be an "iron man" like > Doug (and me in past lives), and God help you if the person involved > ever leaves, gets run over by a truck, loses interest, etc. Now I disagree with the "iron man" moniker, but I'll let it slide 'cause it ain't worth arguing about. But I had to pick my jaw up off the floor when I read the suggestion that employers shouldn't hire talented people because if those people left then the company would be in trouble! Oh, I've seen companies run on this basis. I worked for one for seven months once. Nobody in the place did anything useful, so they were all easily replaceable if need be. Of course, they didn't need to be replaced because no one ever quit and no one ever got "hired away". Next time I buy a car, I'll go to the junk yard and pick up one without an engine or wheels. It'll be easy to find, cheap to buy, won't use much gas or need much repairs, won't need to have license plates, won't get into wrecks, and nobody'll be stealing it. Heck, it'll last me a lifetime. I wonder if IBM regrets having hired "iron men" like Gene Amdahl and H. Ross Perot, who both left the company and even went into competition against IBM? Does CDC regret having allowed "iron man" Seymour Cray to design its 6000 series systems, now that Cray is gone (and is also in competition with CDC)? Or maybe the Apple Computer Company wishes it had been founded by someone other than the "iron duo" of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Perhaps Lockheed wishes it hadn't had Bill Kelly around to single-handedly design the Super-Constellation, the U-2, and the SR-71. A colleague once had a poster that read, "A ship in the harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are made for." A company without competent employees is safe from losing any valuable employees, but they're not too likely to turn a profit, eh? -- Doug Pardee -- Terak Corp. -- !{ihnp4,seismo,decvax}!noao!terak!doug ^^^^^--- soon to be CalComp