Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmum.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watnot!watmum!cdshaw From: cdshaw@watmum.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: risks, methods of defence Message-ID: <161@watmum.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Jun-85 00:27:53 EDT Article-I.D.: watmum.161 Posted: Fri Jun 14 00:27:53 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Jun-85 04:42:15 EDT References: <964@ubc-vision.CDN> <289@looking.UUCP> Reply-To: cdshaw@watmum.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 36 The reason why NATO has nuclear capability is that none of the NATO allies is really willing to spend the required amount of money to keep a conventional force of the appropriate size in Europe. This has been the case since 1948 (roughly). In fact, right from the start, this has been NATO policy... save money on real troops by relying on the US nuclear umbrella. ... To answer a point made by Brad in an earlier posting, he is afraid/wary of Soviet takeover, and he mentioned Czechoslovakia in 1968. There are 2 points I'd like to make... 1) To be perfectly egocentric.. Czechoslovakia isn't North America. We are not talking about OUR secruity, but someone else's, and I think it's important to remember that distinction. 2) Czechoslovakia was never "ours" to begin with. It was (since 1945) a sattelite state of the USSR. The actions of 1968 were to remind the world in general (and the Czech gov't in particular) that the USSR means business when it sees a "security threat" on its borders. The USSR's action is analogous to what's going on in Nicaragua with the US. Of course, one might argue that it would have been worth the effort to free the people of Czechoslovakia, but we weren't ready (militarily, see above), and the USSR would SEVERELY doubt our motives. It could easily be interpreted as the opening skirmishes to an invasion of the USSR proper. This doesn't mean I like the Soviet actions in Czechoslovakia in 1968, just that one's political/philosophical views shouldn't get in the way of reality. Chris Shaw watmath!watmum!cdshaw or cdshaw@watmath University of Waterloo In doubt? Eat hot high-speed death -- the experts' choice in gastric vileness !