Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Re: Re: Better DEAD than RED Message-ID: <5709@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 14:31:28 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.5709 Posted: Wed Jun 19 14:31:28 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Jun-85 14:31:28 EDT References: <893@mnetor.UUCP> <5642@utzoo.UUCP> <896@mnetor.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 15 > > The western nations did not reach their position of economic and cultural > > dominance by trampling others (although once they reached it there was > > If colonialism is not trampling, I don't know what is. Before colonialism, > it wasn't quite clear that the western nations were economically dominant. Then how do you explain tiny Western armies conquering enormous existing nations, some of them moderately sophisticated? My point was that the West's steep climb in technology and standard of living started long before colonialism existed, and was a prerequisite for colonialism rather than vice-versa. I don't deny that colonialism constitutes trampling, but this was an effect, not a fundamental cause, of Western growth. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry