Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Federal support(?) of science Message-ID: <1589@dciem.UUCP> Date: Sat, 22-Jun-85 13:53:20 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.1589 Posted: Sat Jun 22 13:53:20 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Jun-85 16:08:57 EDT Reply-To: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 35 Summary: References: In this morning's Globe and Mail, Eric Nielsen is reported as saying he is looking for any places he can reduce Federal support to Science. In opposition, the Conservatives recognized and spoke much about the need for increased research if Canada's economy was to improve over the long term. I spoke to one Conservative MP (Belleville area), who was most concerned over the low levels of science support provided by the Liberals. He said even then that a major Conservative thrust was to improve science funding. The place of research as the chief engine of the economy has not changed. All that has changed is the name of the party in power. Conservatives seem to have forgotten what they "deeply" believed, now they have the opportunity to really do something for the Canadian economy. Or was it all just rhetoric -- the Liberals are underfunding science, so we must argue for more funding .... Oh, now we are in power, we don't have to argue against Liberal policies any more; we can just do the same, only worse.? A long time ago, there was an article in Nature showing a high lagged correlation between spending on research and economic growth. The growth rate had a coefficient of variation of about 0.5 with the spending on research 5 years previously (i.e. about half of everything that affects the economy is prior research spending, and fiscal policy, tax measures, and so forth can affect only the other half). Subsequent articles in various general science journals (e.g. Science, Nature) have continued support this in principle (I don't read Economics journals, so I don't know whether they address the question). If the Conservatives care about the economy, why are they keen to cut spending on science? -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmt