Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!cbosgd!ucbvax!info-vax From: info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA Newsgroups: fa.info-vax Subject: microVAX III and busses Message-ID: <7746@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Mon, 3-Jun-85 19:27:51 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.7746 Posted: Mon Jun 3 19:27:51 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Jun-85 01:18:15 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 28 From: sasaki@harvard.ARPA (Marty Sasaki) I find the rumors about things truly amazing, especially the microVAX III. A recent note mentioned that the next microVAX will not have a Q-bus, but might use a CI or a UNIBUS. This is very unlikely. The Q-bus is a pretty fast bus, almost twice as fast as a UNIBUS in practical applications and use. It has a 22 bit address space compared to the UNIBUS' 18 bit space, which means that mapping from bus space to real memory is easier with a Q-bus. Peripherals are also cheaper on a Q-bus. There is no reason to use a UNIBUS over a Q-bus. The CI bus is meant to be a communications channel between processors. It talks a magic protocol and runs at 70 meg. The cost of a CI controller (~$20k) is more than the base microVAX II configuration. It doesn't make a lot of sense to spend more money on the CI controller than on the computer system. I don't know what the microVAX III will be like, and I don't think that DEC does either. Yes, there are several VAXen in the works (there always are), and at least one has to be microprocessor based, but as far as something close enough to being a product to be called a microVAX III? I doubt it. ---------------- Marty Sasaki net: sasaki@harvard.{arpa,uucp} Havard University Science Center phone: 617-495-1270 One Oxford Street Cambridge, MA 02138