Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site bunkerb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!bunkerb!garys From: garys@bunkerb.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Re: Re: Whose life anyway? Message-ID: <524@bunkerb.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Jun-85 16:39:06 EDT Article-I.D.: bunkerb.524 Posted: Mon Jun 17 16:39:06 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Jun-85 05:41:08 EDT References: <545@bgsuvax.UUCP> <239@azure.UUCP> <867@bunker.UUCP> <259@azure.UUCP> Organization: Bunker Ramo, Trumbull Ct Lines: 27 (me) > > But in any case, the same argument would justify murder -- e.g., I > > haven't been murdered, and if I had been murdered, I wouldn't be > > around to wonder whether I should have been murdered. Now, aren't > > you glad you haven't been murdered? (Chris Anderson) > Oh but you are forgetting that before I am murdered, I do have the ability > to set up defenses (ie laws) to prevent myself from being murdered. I know > that I can be murdered, so I can do something to prevent it. > However, a fetus does not know that it can be aborted so it can't sit around > pondering the possibility of it happening. So the fact that the fetus can't defend itself justifies killing it? Or, to look at the other side of the same coin, if you were *not* able to pass laws to prevent your own murder (e.g., you live in a totalitarian state where certain classes of individuals may be legally killed), then it would not be wrong to kill you? Does your logic apply to my 2 1/2 year old daughter? I don't think she has ever considered the possibility that someone would try to kill her, and I am sure that she would not be able to defend herself. Does that make it morally acceptable, according to your reasoning, to kill her? Gary Samuelson ittvax!bunker!garys