Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site olivee.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!grkermi!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!oliveb!olivee!gnome From: gnome@olivee.UUCP Newsgroups: net.analog Subject: Re: Re: Jacob's Ladder Message-ID: <385@olivee.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Jun-85 18:14:42 EDT Article-I.D.: olivee.385 Posted: Mon Jun 10 18:14:42 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Jun-85 00:58:01 EDT References: <72@biomed.UUCP> <344@moncol.UUCP> <11218@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 37 > Well I've got a surplus 0-60KV power supply in my living room, I'll > have to give it a try. > > -Ron WARNING!! DANGER WILL ROBINSON !!! I would like to add this little tidbit to the Jacob's ladder discussion -- STAY CLEAR OF HIGH VOLTAGE DC SUPPLIES ! ! ! ! All of the discussions about neat arc generating devices has been fine - but it should be made clear that HVDC supplies are very different animals. Unlike 60Hz AC arcs produced by neon sign transformers, HVDC arcs from surplus laser/xray power supplies are loud, unpredictable, and sometimes fatal. Most (big) HVDC supplies arc over in the following manner - 1) Upon power-up, nothing happens for a few seconds (uh-oh) 2) as the supply charges its internal capacitors, a slight crackling sound might be heard around the outputs of the supply. 3) The arc (to be) usually looks for the least-plausible path to ground and jumps with an incredibly load BANG! 4) The power supply starts charging again and looking for a new place to arc to (the old spot isn't there anymore). At BTL, we had a display terminal that ran with a 10KV DC tube (CRT) supply. One time, the HVDC jumped to a deflection board and literally vaporized a TO-220 transistor; the plastic case and one of the three leads became a little black crater. Low frequency HVAC can be fun and (reasonably) safe. HVDC can easily blow you away and stop your heart. As they say on the Hitchhiker's Guide - "Whole lots of No-Fun!". Gary