Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cornell.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!hal From: hal@cornell.UUCP (Hal Perkins) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k,net.arch Subject: Re: RISC Message-ID: <2335@cornell.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Jun-85 15:32:36 EDT Article-I.D.: cornell.2335 Posted: Sun Jun 9 15:32:36 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 22:07:50 EDT References: <639@vax2.fluke.UUCP> <2743@nsc.UUCP> <576@terak.UUCP> <1590@amdahl.UUCP> <1303@hammer.UUCP> <601@terak.UUCP> Reply-To: hal@gvax.UUCP (Hal Perkins) Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept. Lines: 18 Xref: watmath net.micro.68k:892 net.arch:1352 Summary: In article <601@terak.UUCP> doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) writes: >By the way, the Berkeley RISC-II chip has a 330 ns cpu cycle time. The >10 MHz NS32016 can do a 32-bit register-to-register signed multiply in >8.3 usec. The RISC-II cpu would have to be able to do the multiply in >only 25 cpu cycles in order to compete. All the cache in the world >ain't gonna help... Now just a moment... The Berkeley chips were built by academic folks using conservative design rules, etc. If they had been built by experienced professional chip designers using state-of-the-art technology they would have been a lot faster. It's not fair to pick on the relatively slow clock cycle of the experimental chips -- they were built to prove a point (which they did), not to produce a product. (I'm not making this up -- if you read some of the RISC papers by Patterson and friends, et. al., they make the same point.) Hal Perkins UUCP: {decvax|vax135|...}!cornell!hal Cornell Computer Science ARPA: hal@cornell BITNET: hal@crnlcs