Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hound.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!hound!rfg From: rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Stereo Imaging at Live Concerts Message-ID: <1209@hound.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Jun-85 12:48:58 EDT Article-I.D.: hound.1209 Posted: Fri Jun 7 12:48:58 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Jun-85 03:59:36 EDT References: <2392@decwrl.UUCP> <371@olivee.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 38 [] As I said in a recent posting, there is an incredible range of sound heard in concert halls depending on the hall, where you sit, etc. I certainly agree with the point that orchestra seating arrangements are intended to create a blend. However, in many halls, at the front center of the balcony, you are looking down on the orchestra from above - a position the conductor probably did not have in mind when arranging his forces. This is also the perspective of many micing arrangements. It is to be expected, therefore, that the reproduction will pretty well allow pinpointing of most sources. As long as it all holds together and blends, that is probably a good thing. Now, given reasonable imaging, ultra-fidelity (either CD or LP, choose your own poison) everything of real golden ear quality. You are practically never going to confuse the reproduction with the real thing except in certain situatiuons: You are in the next room. You can often be surprised that you thought someone was in the next room when it was "just" a recording. This can also happen with recordings of small forces. You can persuade yourself that there really a string quartet in your living room as long as you are not in that room. I am not referring to visual cues, only auditory ones. I wonder if the new AR magic speaker will change that result. While on the subject let me relate an interesting deception that happened to me. Before most of you were born (1953) a group of guys from my school came easton an interviewing trip. Over the weekend we took in Radio City Music hall, sitting in the balcony. We were very impressed with the acoustics of the hall. Especially when the orchestra was playing classical sounding stuff, why you could look right down and pinpoint each instrument. The flute, the chimes, they really carried well in that huge, cavernous hall. A couple of days later I was being interviewed by Harry Olson at RCA in Princeton. Even I had heard of him and, of course, I was properly awed. He mentioned that he had been involved with the design of the Radio City sound system and I really gave him a big compliment when I revealed how impressed we had been - and we had not even suspected that sound reinforcement was being used! Of course I should have known it was, but I didn't. And we detected no clues. The imaging with the live performers was that close. The boost that subtle. I understand they used to have a mixing console right out in the middle of the audience downstairs, but I never saw it. -- "It's the thought, if any, that counts!" Dick Grantges hound!rfg