Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ulose.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ulose!bob From: bob@ulose.UUCP ( Bob Bismuth ) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Pilot Proficiency Program Message-ID: <107@ulose.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Jun-85 10:14:50 EDT Article-I.D.: ulose.107 Posted: Sat Jun 8 10:14:50 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 20:29:53 EDT References: <799@ihnp4.UUCP> <3837@alice.UUCP> Organization: CADMUS Computer Systems, Lowell, MA. Lines: 53 > Putting it differently: suppose we know that people who participate > in PPP stay out of trouble. Mightn't it be that the sort of > person who participates in PPP is also the sort of person who > knows enough not to do stupid things? > > One must be very careful about trying to draw statistical > conclusions about a self-selected sample. On the face of what you suggest, I'd agree - those who try to better themselves are generally those who don't wind up in the trees or smeared over the side of a mountain. However, having recently attended an FAA Air Safety Seminar, I'm not sure this is true. I went along with a genuine interest in learning of what I could do to improve my flying. I was disapointed to find that the safety talks only covered pratices which I already thoroughly follow. I thought the presentations very childish, almost scolding in nature. I was going to write the whole thing off to a wasted day when I looked at the audience. Most of the pilots there were really learning something for the first time. I concluded that the FAA, with offers of door prizes, reduced insurance rates via the wings program and the ultimate prize, rides in a P51 and Vampire, had actually got hold of some of the ears they wanted to pour words into. It was a pity that people who appeared like sensible sorts needed this sort of reward to sit and listen to what was, on the whole, good pilot sense and good common sense. I fly most of the time VFR in a craft without any electronic navigation, with only 1 gyro (turn/slip) and a compass to show me the way. Couple to that a lack of flaps, 65 hp and a tailwheel, and you have the formula for sharpening your pilot skills. Cross countries are fascinating - you have to be continually weather conscious, really be capable of pilotage and know the winds like the back of your hand (particularly close to the ground). Though I try never to relax my vigil, to me those things are second nature. Not apparently to those who attended the safty program. Makes me wish the FAA would subsidize instruction schools who use J3 Cubs, Aeroncas, Luscombes, Cessna 120/140's or even (yes Jeff) Funks. I've heard that sentiment echoed by old-timers and until I'd tried flying Classics never realized why. One question I do have is for the CFI's out there. Participation in a Safety Seminar needs to be followed by 3 hours of dual to get start the wings program. None of the local CFIs I know really know what that dual is supposed to cover. Does anyone out there know? It's covered in AC61-91c (or b - not sure which), but I don't have a copy. -- bob (decvax!ulose!bob)