Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site noscvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!noscvax!powers From: powers@noscvax.UUCP (William J. Powers) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Bikes, Hatred, etc. Message-ID: <955@noscvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 9-Jun-85 02:42:13 EDT Article-I.D.: noscvax.955 Posted: Sun Jun 9 02:42:13 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Jun-85 15:15:34 EDT References: <2048@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego Lines: 51 > This is a reply to a question Mark Draughn brought up, "How should cyclists > and drivers communicate?" > The most comprehensive and thoughtful discussion of the bicycle in traffic > can be found in "Effective Cycling" by John Forester (sp?). and probably > should be mandatory reading for anyone wishing to discuss this. He is a > forceful proponent of assertive cycling. Essentially, his view is that a > bicycle is a (usually) slow moving vehicle and has all the rights and > resposibilities of such a vehicle. Thus it needs neither special priveledges > nor special restrictions. > > I believe he would agree that cyclists and drivers need to communicate --- > the same way drivers communicate among themselves, with turn signals and > position on the road! There is no need for a special signal to indicate, > "I am about to make a sudden right angle turn in front of you!" because it > is illegal to do so. He would suggest that when you overtake a bicycle > you should do it the same way you would a slow moving vehicle, say a tractor. > If he is taking up the lane, you slow behind him, watch oncomming traffic, > signal, change lanes, accelerate past, and then pull back in. If you have > room to pass in the lane, you moderate your speed appropriately and pass. > You would not use your horn on the tractor unless he is swerving back and forth > or not staying to the right as any slow moving vehicle must, and the same > would apply to bicycles. > (Incidently, Forester's principals include staying to the right as far as > saftey permits, but because visibility is of paramont importance in safety, > - cyclist are struck in intersections not from behind - this is NOT all the > way to the right. If there is not enough room for cars to pass safely, then > the cyclist should assert his right to the lane by moving towards the middle > rather than tempting cars to pass unsafely.) I totally agree with Forester, esp. since I discovered his attitude in the same manner that he did: by experience. However, it occurs to me that there is a need for a horn. If I wanted to pass that tractor, I would think that safety and courtesy would dictate that I inform the operator of the tractor. The best way to do that is with a horn before the manuever is attempted. I still think that a more or less universally adopted or advocated system of communication between the motorist and bicyclist is important. One of the major concerns that I hear from motorists is that they simply do not know how to react to bicycle traffic. At best they are overly careful and fearful; at worst they are hostile and frustrated with their presence on the road. A well advertised system of communication would have the two-fold effect of alleviating this problem while simultaneously making both the motorist and bicyclist aware of their mutual concerns. Just the exercise of political effort to implement such a system could have tremendous beneficial effects. Bill Powers